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Angel ID 8/6/09 Wrought Iron Angel - 06/17/07 Hello MR. Fenner I hope that you do not mind the email, please excuse the intrusion. <Please... write to [email protected]> was wondering if you had any first hand experience with a wrought iron angel <There is no such animal... you likely mean the Butterflyfish, Chaetodon daedalma...> and a reef tank. Thinking about adding one to my 180g reef system which is SPS and LPSs ( Scolymia, lympho's, symphilia's, Gonioporas) no clams or elegance or torch's etc. do they have a tendency to be unfriendly to my corals? any input would be appreciated, thank you for your time and advice. Stephen, concord, Massachusetts. <Try the correct common and scientific name for a further search. BobF>
Angelfish ID - 3/27/07 I have caught an unusual angelfish. So far my searching has proved fruitless in determining the exact species. It is thriving in one of my quarantine tanks. I read somewhere on your site not to send video footage. If that is the case do I need to take stills to get you to identify it? thanks , Jason. <Yes sir, Jason.. Video's would simply be too big for our mail server, it'd fall like the lady from the Life Alert commercials ("I've fallen, and I can't get up!" *grin*) Snap some still frames, and size them down to a few hundred kilobytes, and we'll be glad to take a look! -JustinN> Marine Angels: Mistake Identity? (Where's the Photo??!!) 11/30/05 Hi, <Hello Dave.> First I would like to thank you for your great website. <Thanks, hope you have found it as useful as I do at times.> It has really helped a once novice such as myself become informed about this great hobby. Attached is a picture of an angelfish that I ordered from The Marine Center. It was sold to me as a juvenile Chrysurus angelfish and I paid through the nose for it. <Yeah the marine center = Cha-Ching! Though I will say they do ship quality specimens.> <<Proper names, mate. Marine Center. MH>> When it came to me it was only about two inches and did not have the yellow bar down its side that it does now. It seems to bear a striking resemblance to a Maculosus angelfish in its juvenile coloration but it still may be too early to tell. I would just like to get your opinion on whether I got duped or this is just an unusual coloration? Thanks for any help that you can give me and sorry but I don't know how to resize images on my computer. <<Free download for Windows - Irfanview. Resize to about 300 pixels a side, please. Adam, et al., please put the original query (the one WITH the photo) into the "Emails With Images" folder AFTER you have answered it (instead of just deleting), or I cannot post it. Marina>> <I think your analysis may be right, although young the severely defined yellow marking also makes me tend to believe that is animal is Chrysurus angelfish.> - Dave <Adam J.> Apolemichthys guezei 9/24/05 Hi Bob. I recently had the pleasure to speak with you at MACNA, and I forgot to mention this fish I have. <How nice!> I am nowhere near certain on any ID, but based on the 2 fishes I've seen and currently house, I am trying to narrow my searches down. The first time I was able to see this fish was at ERI in Los Angeles. I did not buy the fish, but I remember them asking $200+ for the fish. <About right> At first glance I thought it was an A. armitagei, but after looking I realized I was mistaken. The fish was a good 5.5-6". After getting back from Tonga, I noticed my local wholesaler received the same fish, at a much smaller size of 3.5". I jumped on the opportunity to buy the fish. At this point I was thinking it is just a Hybrid Centropyge, possibly between nox and flavissimus/heraldi. I've had this fish now for 4 weeks, nursing it back from an internal parasite. It is very shy, so I have not been able to get a good photo. The coloration on the edges & fins of the fish is black. The inside forms an oval, and is a dusky yellow color. The anal fin has an "X" squiggled along it. I have searched FishBase, Google, etc., and have come across a photo of the Reunion Angelfish (Es. guezei). I also noticed that Randall had gone diving for this fish over the course of several weeks and did not see a single specimen. Is it possible that this fish is the same? <Yes> Unfortunately I do not know much about the origins of the fish, other than the probability that it came from the Philippines or Indonesia. <I would ask Rob Miller/ERI re... he will know> Does this pattern on the anal fin that both fish shared help any with identification? <Not me... unfortunately I have not seen this species either... in the wild nor captivity> Due to the size of the fish in LA, I'm hesitant to think they are Centropyge sp. due to the adult size of both C. nox & flavissimus. Basically, I'm stumped :) Thanks for any input, Joe Russo <I don't think this is a Centropyge cross... as you state re size... and their body shapes (of the two genera) are rather distinct. Please do send along images when you can. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
- More on Blue Angels - oh how wonderful life is with aquaria in hand and doing life's work, without shoving it back to you, and saying here take this you... i have to ask cheers j- are you female or male not that i care but curious!!! <Last time I checked, I was a male - J is short for Jason.> your advice {splendid indeed master splinter} ! i did as you requested and ordered bobs book the conscientious marine aquarist, should be here Monday! <Excellent, I think you will enjoy it.> i really have a question about my blue angel, or my queen angel you see the blue angel has lines that curve back toward the tail and the one i have although 4 inches in length just body not tail look to be straight, and another thing that leads me to believe it is a queen is the dorsal fin from front to back is neon blue as is the fin from front to back on the underside of him is neon blue, and from what I've been reading the adult blue has no blue color! <Hmm... that doesn't happen for quite a while... give it some time and you will see. More on the Holocanthus angels here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/holacanthus/index.htm > i paid 68 bucks for this blue angel so they say, but did i get a blue or did i get a queen? <Hard to say without a photo - I'm guessing by your description that this fish still has it's juvenile colors.> if i got a queen i need to hurry and get a 400 or 5 hundred gal tank right? <No hurry, they don't grow that quickly but either way, both of these fish get considerably larger than four inches and if you want to keep it for a long time, a larger tank will be in your future. Cheers, J -- > Which fish on What Book? >Hi, I just want to know what kind of fish on the cover of the book that red and white stripe like peppermint and where can i buy them and how much they usually cost? thank you very much.................Tony. >>Hi Tony. Your message is a bit difficult to decipher (no punctuation). It would be helpful to answer your question if you A: used punctuation, and B: told us what book you're talking about. The only book that Bob's written that I know of that pictures an angel of any kind is "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist", and the fish pictured is a dwarf angel, Centropyge loricula. It is not red and white striped. The only angelfish that *I* know of that's colored in such a manner has a rather dismal record of survival in captivity, and is very infrequently offered for sale. Coming from rather deep waters means that you may be looking for an animal that's several hundred dollars (though I've never purchased or procured one for someone). Hope this helps! Marina <Likely the Peppermint Angel on Allen, Allen and Steene's latest Angel and Butterflyfish tome. RMF> "I should be on Jeopardy!" - Don't buy it >Hi, I'm sorry, I saw the fish on the book "A Guide To Angelfish and Butterflyfish", by Gerald R. Allen, Roger Steene, and Mark Allen . The red and white stripe fish on the cover of the book, hope you can help me who selling the fish and if you can you give me the common name and the scientific name of this fish? Thank you very much....Tony. >>Well, this gal knows a Centropyge when she sees one, and sure enough, it's a Centropyge boylei - Peppermint angelfish. It's a deepwater dwelling fish, NOT suited for aquaria, and as you'll see in the FishBase link (and I quote) "Never or rarely exported through the aquarium trade ". So, the answers to your other questions would be, in order, no one, not at any price. If you do run across it, I would leave it, as, like other deepwater Centropyge, it tends to not only be incredibly shy, but even if it feeds, nutritional needs are never met and it still starves to death. Marina <<Ah, yes>>
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